Wasanelder Once

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  What is the most powerful album that you have ever listened to?

  by zed is dead in

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  Wasanelder Once

  The group? Dead Can Dance.

  The album? Toward The Within

  This is magical and it is interesting that besides the obvious english language songs ALL the rest are simply vocalizations that the female singer compares to speaking in tongues in that they just appeared as they were initially sung. Now those original persian sounding lyrics are sung exactly the same. It is very moving and very middle eastern in its sound though the two singers are Irish and Australian. Used to say Dark Side of the Moon but this transcends that. Try it. Dead Can Dance.
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  Recorded Judicial Meeting by 19 year old

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  he runs circles around the dogmatic elders.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.

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  I commented the last time this was posted that the elders seemed unusually kind to him in view of his cocky attitude and obvious BS about "just having questions." They seemed to have compassion for his upbringing and his mother's fanaticism and father's seeming abuse. I thought they were following the party line very loosely but ultimately had to stick with the program which he expected anyway. Glad I didnt have to waste my time there.
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  Recorded Judicial Meeting by 19 year old

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  he runs circles around the dogmatic elders.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.

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  Everytime I hear a prayer uttered by a JW male it is the same feeling, revulsion.
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  Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?

  by Open mind in

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  No. don't believe in it.
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  I am like Dr. Leo Marvin in "What about Bob"

  by NVR2L8 in

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  a few days ago i watch the old bill murray movie "what about bob" with my family and realized that i'm in the same situation as dr. leo marvin (played by richard dreyfus).

  for those who have never seen this movie, dr. marvin is a psychiatrist who is unable to shake off an obsessed patient who manages to track him down during his family vacation.

  the patient befriends the family who see him like a charming man, when in fact he is driving dr. leo crazy.

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  Baby Steps NVR2L8, Baby Steps! Don't forget "Death Therapy" as a last resort!
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  Living Through the Brief Liberalization of Jehovah's Witnesses, Never Recovering

  by TMS in

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  with the book crisis of conscience detailing the turbulence at bethel during the early to mid 70's, the transformation from autocratic rule to governance by committee or a body of men, many of us can speak to how that felt among the rank and file of the local congregations during those years.

  we learned new concepts based in large part to research done for the aid to bible understanding volume, then we were asked or coerced into unlearning those principles, going back to the old ways.

  some of us never readjusted, finding ourselves very different from our more hardline compadres.. the inertia for the changes that eventually were initiated in the congregations came from the discovery that the greek words episkopos and presbyteros were used biblically to refer to all qualified men in a congregation, not just one.

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  It was the time of The Commentary on the Book of James a woefully unread book. That book set the tone for giving a shit about anyone but yourself without worrying what the corporation thought of you. I really liked the series of WT articles on the fruitage of the spirit. Then it went back to the fruitage of the corporation. Jerks.
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  The ransom sacrifice contradicts the "issue of universal sovereignty"

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  if jesus is the exact representation of his heavenly father, and if "god is love", and if there is no greater love than to give up one's own life for others, then if jesus gave up his life for mankind as the greatest act of love ever performed, why would jehovah be more concerned about his own name being vindicated and his rule being proven to be superior to man's rule than preventing untold millions of innocent persons over thousands of years from suffering and dying horribly?.

  wouldn't jehovah be just like his son, jesus, and choose to sacrifice his own name and reputation out of his great love for mankind rather than permit so much suffering for thousands of years?

  why would the almighty creator of the universe care so much about being 'slandered' by a rebellious spirit creature that he would have to permit so much suffering for so long?

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  No God. No son. Done
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  my worst fears were realized

  by magotan in

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  im on my phone, so im really limited.

  i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.

  shit hit the fan.

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  Mago, the jokes on them, they think you will die and never enter paradise but they wont either since it is a Watchtower myth. Do not give in to the pressure. Be happy and love who you want. In life its the one's we love unconditionally who will be there for us on our journey. Everyone else posts on facebook.
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

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  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Where there's a body of water or river etc. there is going to be a flood epic. Its not a world wide flood, its a world wide commonality of flood experiences destroying the known world of thier time. Perhaps their immeidate area which is the known world of their time and cultural. Its called a tall tale. Duh.
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  Did you hear Jw's swear?

  by highdose in

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  i know that what counts as swearing differs alot from region to region, amongst the words i heard used were "crap, bloody, shit, git, bastard, bitch" and the dubs who used these words would say that they didn't belive they were swear words at all!.

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  yes